Archive for February 11th, 2010

Technical speculation on Apple A4

What A4 stands for?

  • “A” likely stands for Apple. It’s not clear why “4″. It may indicate quad core? It’s known that Cortex-A9 could have upto 4 cores.

Who designed it?

  • Apple bought p.A.semi in Apr/2008. Given that the chip was made at Q4/2009, the T/O should be as early as Q2/2009.
  • If PA semi started design A4 from Q3/2008, they only had 3Q to complete the design. This is too short to complete CPU design from the beginning.
  • Apple uses Samsung’s S5PC100 AP for iPhone 3GS.This AP uses Cortex-A8, which is single core version. The speed is known as 600 (under clocked from 833MHz), and uses Samsung 45nm tech.
  • Samsung is known to push cortex-A8 speed up to 1GHz, and A4 might use this version of CPU (without underclocking), but multi core version. –> Apr/2010 update: From reverse engineering of iPad shows that the A4 is using Cortex A8 single core. It’s known that single core Cortex A8 on 45nm only speed up to 650MHz. So the GHz claim from Apple A4 is considered from Intrisity Hummingbird design that speeds up Cortex A8  to GHz at 45nm.  Here is some more details. http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/processors/evidence-for-intrinsity-in-the-ipad     4 in A4 now turned out that not for “Quad” core.
  • It makes sense that iPad uses same software stack as iPhone, so Samsung AP should work fine without big risk. P.A.Semi may work with Samsung to implement in multicore as Cortex-A9.

  • Here is come comparison between Cortex-A8 and A9
- Cortex-A8 Cortex-A9
core Single core only Multi core (1~4)
Dhrystone performance 2.0 DMIPS/MHz 2.5 DMIPS/MHz/core
Architecture ARMv7-A Cortex ARMv7-A Cortex
Frequency 600MHz to 1GHz at 65nm 800MHz (worst case, power optimized) using TSMC 40G
Power at target frequency - 0.5W
Chips TI OMAP 3xxxx Samsung S5PC100 TI OMAP 4xxxx ST U8500
Nvidia Tegra 2
Devices Apple iPod touch (3rd gen) Apple iPhone 3GS
Motorola Droid
Palm Pre
Nokia N900
Archos 5
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  • Samsung, in fact, #2 AP vendor following TI, so Apple could take advantage of it.

Top-5 Suppliers of Standalone Applications Processors in Q2
(Ranking by Percentage of Revenue)

Q1-09
Rank
Q2-09
Rank
Company Name Q1-09 Q2-09
1 1 Texas Instruments 27.0% 24.4%
2 2 Samsung Electronics 15.1% 15.9%
3 3 Renesas Technology 9.6% 12.0%
4 4 Marvell Technology Group 7.7% 7.4%
5 5 STMicroelectronics 5.7% 6.6%
- - Top 5 Companies 65.1% 66.3%
- - All Others 34.9% 33.7%
- - Total Semiconductor 100% 100%
  • Here is some comparison among different iPhone and Palm pre

  • Here is a block diagram of Samsung’s S5PC100

  • Apple used PowerVR’s SGX as a GPU in iPhone 3GS, but in iPad, they might integrate GPU within A4 package as a SiP. From the introduction video of iPad, Apple hardware VP spent a lot of time explaining how good the graphic performance of iPad. P.A Semi might play a big role here in integrating GPU and CPU in SiP.
  • There is a speculation that A4 might use ARM’s Mali GPU together with Cortex (http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222700553&pgno=2&printable=true&printable=true), but it’s less likely that Apple changes things too many at once when things work just fine in smaller platform. Next version of A4 might use ARM’s GPU, but considering Apple’s strategy so far, it’s unlikely that Apple relies on both CPU and GPU on the same IP company.

Who makes it?

  • It’s highly likely that Si is made from Samsung using 45nm technology, but more pushed version like TGO technology (similar to TSMC’s 40 LPG) to improve the speed.

TSMC’s Chiang Sees History on Side of Gate-Last High-k Approach – 2010-02-10 16:40:37 | Semiconductor International

TSMC’s Chiang Sees History on Side of Gate-Last High-k Approach – 2010-02-10 16:40:37 | Semiconductor International.

TSMC’s decision to adopt a gate-last approach to high-k deposition was informed by history, said S.Y. Chiang, in charge of R&D at the foundry. Two decades ago, companies tried to use the same gate electrode for both N- and PMOS transistors, a method that was soon abandoned, Chiang said. After a series of face-to-face meetings, TSMC’s design rules for its high-k process are being accepted by its largest customers.

David Lammers, News Editor — Semiconductor International, 2/10/2010

Last summer, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. Ltd. (TSMC, Hsinchu, Taiwan) made a surprising decision to use a gate-last deposition method for the high-k/metal gate stack of its 28 nm transistors. TSMC’s decision to use a replacement metal gate (RMG) technique was guided by history, said S.Y. Chiang, the senior vice president at TSMC in charge of R&D.

S.Y. Chiang (021010-ShangYiChiang.jpg)S.Y. Chiang, senior vice president, TSMCTwo decades ago, the semiconductor industry went through a similar tussle, when early CMOS developers tried to use an N+ poly gate for both the N-channel and P-channel devices. “When the industry began to do PMOS, companies found an N+ poly gate doesn’t work well,” Chiang said. “It was difficult to lower the Vt, so some people tried to add a counter dopant into the active region of the silicon channel to try to match the Vt. That caused a lot of problems, and made gate control and SCE (short channel effects) much worse.”

The gate-first approach to high-k ran into similar Vt control problems, Chiang said. Efforts to use capping layers improved gate-first performance, but a gate-first cap-layer process “gets very, very complicated and difficult to do,” he said. Two decades ago, for one technology generation, companies also tried to adjust the Vt for both NMOS and PMOS. “We went through exactly the same step when in our history we tried to use N+ poly,” Chiang said.

Asked about the restrictive design rules (RDRs) required for the gate-last method, Chiang said TSMC has been working with the layout teams at its largest customers to adjust to the gate-last high-k flow.

“With the gate-last technology, we do have some restrictions,” he said. “There is difficulty in planarizing it. However, if the layout team is willing to change to a new layout style, then they can get a layout density that is as good as with the gate-first approach. Not better, but the same. And it is not that difficult.” With high-k, Chiang added, “everybody — the process people as well as the layout people — need to adjust the way they do things in order to make the products competitive.”

TSMC’s design services team is working with the layout engineers at its largest customers. Chiang said they have demonstrated that with the appropriate alterations the IP cell libraries can achieve an equivalent layout density as with the gate-first approach. “Some people at first complained a lot, saying there would be a large density gap if they used the TSMC RDRs,” he said. “But after face-to-face meetings, the gate-last technique has been very well accepted.”

TSMC’s customers also appreciate what Chiang said is “a side effect” of using the gate-last approach: higher strain for the PMOS transistors.

TSMC plans to offer its first 28 nm processing by the middle of this year, using an SiON gate stack. “At 28 nm, that is the generation we push oxynitrides to the limit,” Chiang said. “We won’t continue to use oxynitrides after that — the transition has to happen somewhere.” The SiON process does have a cost advantage, and Chiang said customers who are not so concerned about gate leakage can move quickly to the 28 nm generation with the oxynitride process. “When it comes down to leakage, the customers who emphasize gate leakage have got to make the switch to high-k.”

TSMC high-k (021010-TSMCHKMG.jpg)TSMC will use its 28 nm SiON process to shake out issues not related to high-k/metal gate deposition. (Source: TSMC)

After the 28 nm SiON process moves into production at the end of the second quarter, TSMC will work to “clean off” any issues relating to interconnects, contacts, design rules and other issues. “That way, when we offer the HKMG process later in the year, we can be more focused on solving the HKMG process issues,” Chiang said.

Asked if the 28 nm generation promises to be a challenging one, Chiang said, “Some generations are relatively easier. For example, the transition from 90 to 65 nm had a very low risk. I do certainly believe 40 to 28 is very definitely a high-risk one, and we are preparing for that. We are preparing for all the possible scenarios. Reliability is a risk, and yield control. But we are working hard to prepare. Between 2006 and 2009, our headcount doubled, so I am pretty confident we will make this next generation a successful one.”

Chiang predicted the industry will coalesce around the gate-last method. “I do believe the gate-first people will change to gate last at the 22 nm node,” he said. “I am not criticizing them. But I think they will change. Unless they can find some very innovative way to adjust the threshold voltage without a lot of high cost, they will have to change.”

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